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20161011 08:41:42 * Topic is 'http://jogamp.org | Hacking 3D Graphics, Multimedia and Processing across Devices | logs: http://jogamp.org/log/irc/?C=M;O=D'
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20161011 09:56:49 <Eclesia> o/
20161011 10:00:47 <elect> any jni experience here?
20161011 10:00:53 <elect> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39974626/simple-java-jni-tutorials-failing
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20161011 10:14:32 <zubzub> I'll have a look when I'm back from lunch
20161011 10:14:37 <zubzub> is that you in the question elect ?
20161011 10:15:08 <bruce-> this the moment where you push your ffi that doesn't work on the OSes that people actually use
20161011 10:39:24 <elect> zubzub, :D unfortunately yes, that's me
20161011 10:57:03 <zubzub> bruce-: patches welcome! :p
20161011 10:57:10 <zubzub> but yeah you're right
20161011 10:57:17 <zubzub> I'll invest some time in it
20161011 10:57:25 <zubzub> it's not rocket science and should be relativley simple
20161011 10:57:34 <zubzub> except maybe for the windows part
20161011 10:57:53 <elect> are you talking to me?
20161011 10:57:58 <elect> or bruce- ?
20161011 10:58:01 <zubzub> bruce
20161011 10:58:05 <elect> ok
20161011 10:58:19 <zubzub> bruce-: is hinting me to make jaccall available for windows
20161011 10:58:28 <zubzub> because you have trouble working with jni
20161011 10:58:50 <zubzub> jaccall theoretically fixes all your (jni) problems
20161011 10:59:05 <elect> I am listening
20161011 10:59:09 <elect> performance?
20161011 10:59:41 <zubzub> should be really good
20161011 10:59:55 <elect> any benchs?
20161011 11:00:41 <zubzub> my own tests on rpi show 15% less cpu usage compared to jna, and no more gc cpu spikes
20161011 11:00:59 <zubzub> but no official testing or anything
20161011 11:01:04 <zubzub> it's zero copy
20161011 11:01:20 <zubzub> that is you don't copy struc memory from native to java and vice versa
20161011 11:01:32 <elect> interesting
20161011 11:01:42 <zubzub> I also have a branch that uses Unsafe for even faster operations
20161011 11:01:52 <zubzub> to malloc & read data
20161011 11:02:23 <zubzub> it's also nearly zero reflection
20161011 11:02:39 <zubzub> and uses compile time source code generation to map struct and function pointers
20161011 11:02:59 <zubzub> so that gives you speed and source code for debugging
20161011 11:04:01 <zubzub> the only thing it does not support is runtime vararg declaration invocation
20161011 11:04:13 <zubzub> that is, you can use varargs
20161011 11:04:26 <zubzub> howeved you need to declare the signatures you're going to use in advance
20161011 11:04:34 <elect> it's ok
20161011 11:04:45 <elect> it's like the candy on top of the cake
20161011 11:04:51 <elect> I am looking for the cake
20161011 11:04:58 <elect> (or the girl in the cake)
20161011 11:05:13 <zubzub> https://github.com/udevbe/jaccall
20161011 11:05:17 <elect> I know
20161011 11:05:20 <zubzub> docs should be fairly complete :p
20161011 11:05:23 <zubzub> k :p
20161011 11:05:38 <elect> I'll watch and star it
20161011 11:05:48 <zubzub> I'll try invest some time in it this & next week
20161011 11:05:56 <zubzub> get windows & mac builds working for 64 bit
20161011 11:06:00 <zubzub> and android too
20161011 11:06:01 <elect> no stress btw
20161011 11:07:44 <zubzub> no I want it to be popular :p
20161011 11:07:49 <elect> excellent
20161011 11:07:52 <zubzub> it's like 100* better than jna :p
20161011 11:08:00 <elect> I want to believe
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20161011 13:02:26 <monsieur_max> elect: next jug event in my city is about kotlin ;)
20161011 13:02:39 <elect> jug?
20161011 13:02:45 <monsieur_max> java user group
20161011 13:02:51 <elect> ah
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20161011 13:02:58 <elect> did you take a look at kotlin?
20161011 13:03:03 <elect> what do you think?
20161011 13:03:08 <monsieur_max> nope
20161011 13:03:15 <monsieur_max> not much free time
20161011 13:03:26 <monsieur_max> so this event is a good opportunity
20161011 13:03:36 <elect> will you attend it?
20161011 13:04:10 <monsieur_max> maybe
20161011 13:04:39 <monsieur_max> right now, i'm thinking "yes", but the very day is "meh, i want to sleep"
20161011 13:05:22 <elect> :D
20161011 13:05:46 <elect> I'll push you that day psicologically
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20161012 04:19:15 <upgrdman> hi. anyone know of an opengl profiler that can be used with jogl? amd's gpu perfstudio hangs when i try to profile a java jogl program, im guessing the jvm or jni stuff causes issues?
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20161012 07:00:05 <elect> hi
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20161012 07:26:02 <Eclesia> moin
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20161012 21:39:26 -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, we will be carrying out some maintenance to a hidden hub at around 10PM UTC (~20 min from now). There will be brief disruption and a loss of services for the duration. You may wish to op yourself in any channels you manage. Apologies for the noise and thank you for your patience.
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20161012 23:26:47 -tomaw- [Global Notice] Looks like our maintenance window will have to move to a later time/date. We'll let you know more info when it becomes available.
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